Archive for the 'Outsiders view' Category

10
May
12

So you want to live together before marriage?

Over the last few years I have had the distinct privilege of performing multiple weddings, but before that process begins I ask the each couple does some “pre-marital” sessions with me to prepare them for what lies ahead.  Between my pre-marital sessions and working in a “secular” workplace (though I do not believe there is a divide between sacred and secular, but I digress) I find that both “Christians” and non- Christians are moving in for a myriad of reasons.

  • Financial/ our current economy
  • Sexual (though unstated if you are “Christian”)
  • Simple try out (i.e. test drive marriage  before purchase) and many more.

In these sessions we talk about the Biblical perspective of cohabitation, and (not surprisingly) I see and  hear that sliding into cohabitation is more normal than not.  Whatever the reasons there has been a substantial increase on cohabitation according to a recent New York Times article,

Cohabitation in the United States has increased by more than 1,500 percent in the past half century. In 1960, about 450,000 unmarried couples lived together. Now the number is more than 7.5 million. The majority of young adults in their 20s will live with a romantic partner at least once, and more than half of all marriages will be preceded by cohabitation. (emphasis added)

The article goes on to state that,

 …nearly half of 20-somethings agreed with the statement, “You would only marry someone if he or she agreed to live together with you first, so that you could find out whether you really get along.” About two-thirds said they believed that moving in together before marriage was a good way to avoid divorce.

But that belief is contradicted by experience. Couples who cohabit before marriage tend to be less satisfied with their marriages — and more likely to divorce — than couples who do not. These negative outcomes are called the cohabitation effect.

I have to admit, it is a little frustrating that we as pastors are constantly derided for giving people “antiquated” information about sex, relationships, and life in general all because our source of truth happens to be the Bible.  Yet, once again God turns out to be smarter than all of us, imagine that.  As a society our thoughts on certain subjects, especially revolving around sex, are “evolving” but Biblical truth does not.  Continually, as research and science are compiled the findings come back around to agreeing with those time honored truths.

I do not exactly know where you stand on this subject, obviously I have my opinions tempered by the truth of the Bible.  I will admit that amongst the pressures of todays society it is not easy  adhere to Biblical truth but an infinite God instructed us for His glory and our joy versus finite man coming up with our “truth” and eventually coming to His conclusions.

I would love to know your thoughts below.

Read the complete NY Times article here.

13
Jan
12

You are a Christian…right?

A friend from work texted this to me and I laughed immediately.  He said that it reminded him of some of the conversations that we have had about Christ and His church.  I would love know your reaction to this….

03
Feb
10

Outsiders View: Evan

Now that I’m not in “full-time” professional ministry I’ve had the great opportunity to work directly with many people who are not Christians, don’t like Christians and sometimes hate us.  I have asked some of them to share there story and there real view of Christians (please check out my previous post to understand my thinking.). Today’s post comes from a co-worker of mine named Evan.   Furthermore, I am asking you to suspend judgment on Evan’s (or any other contributors) opinions until the end of the document, listen closely to what they stay and the intent of their words as they have used their valuable time to write for you.  Thank you so much and I pray that you enjoy thins as much as I have so far.

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I was surprised and flattered when you wanted to hear my opinions. Thanks :)

My name is Evan Michael Nelson. I was born in Houston, Texas December 31, 1989. I have lived in or around Kansas City since I was three. I have two brothers and three sisters of which I am the second oldest. My parents raised us in a Traditional Catholic home until their divorce in 2004. Despite the conservative upbringing I like to think of myself as an open-minded individual, especially since I am openly gay which honestly takes a very open mind once you get down nitty gritty of what we do. In my spare time I like to draw cartoons in my sketchbook or watch Quentin Tarantino movies (DeathProof is my favorite). My career aspiration is to work in medicine and has been since I was young. Currently I attend Johnson County Community College because at KU I partied my freshman year away. I work at the New Theater Restaurant which is where I met Jon (and you are very funny and I quite enjoy you). I am in a relationship of a little over a year with Samuel (and despite my nagging him to shave his back) we are still very happy and drama free. Knock on wood.
To me, religion is very important and Christianity just so happens to be my religion. Even though I have all the mounting evidence, logic, and reasons to happily put faith behind me I have decided that I want to remain Catholic and even raise my children in the same manner. Christianity, despite all its apparent flaws, is essentially good and faith is part of the human condition, which is why you never meet an atheist at the hospital and I can vouch for that. I have found in my experiences that people who have some sort of faith at all tend to be happier with their lives. But on the flip side of the coin I have observed those who are “too” faithful to have a small locus of control which I can not respect in anyway. I see Christianity as a great “rough draft” of a moral person and in my opinion that’s all one should really need. I for one do not follow certain doctrines of my faith (obviously) but I still feel as though I have a place in Heaven. In my opinion God made us to live the life he made for us and being self sufficient and living to the fullest is a good use of your soul. Certain Christians allow their faith to cloud their judgment. They become so wrapped up in their scriptures that it hinders their potential. People too obsessed with God allow themselves to fail and attribute it to be a part of his “plan”. Perhaps it’s the archaic view of Catholicism grained into me but I feel like God is simply a judge who is going to evaluate my time on Earth, he isn’t my dad and he isn’t my guiding light. I do not mean to sound overly critical but these are my beliefs (different strokes for different strokes I reckon) and I am one who likes to put the majority of my faith in myself that way I can survive this real world with minimal time wasted. Christianity as a religion (and especially certain Protestant divisions) is much too cushy, it’s all love love love and pray pray pray. I’m not into “Buddy Jesus” and those sort of perceptions. I feel that they weaken a person’s attachment to real life where God isn’t going to part the Red Sea and hand you your next meal or rent check. God does not talk to anyone (expect for maybe the Pope) and he doesn’t have an advice column so people looking for answers to their life problems ought to put down the Bible and go out and fix them. For some people faith may be helpful and they feel that it gives them strength, but it’s only a crutch. True strength comes from inside oneself and making religion one’s central thesis is hollow. I respect those people who can find strength in religion, but I do not envy them. I would much rather depend on myself and that’s what I think God really wants. Also I take comfort in the idea of an afterlife. The thought that all I’ll do when I die is rot is much too nihilistic for me to embrace.

“You have never met a mere mortal: You have either known an immortal horror or an eternal splendor”

~ C.S. Lewis “The Weight of Glory”

06
Jan
10

Outsiders View

“You have never met a mere mortal: You have either known an immortal horror or an eternal splendor”

~ C.S. Lewis “The Weight of Glory”

Now that I’m not in “full-time” professional ministry I’ve had the great opportunity to work directly with many people who are not Christians, don’t like Christians and sometimes hate us.  I have asked some of them to share there story and there real view of Christians.  Why you may ask?  Given my testimony I have a passion for the outsider, though Christ seems to be drawing me to the “older brother” (focus on vs. 25 – 32), and that passion leads me into some extremely interesting conversations.  I’ve learned that each person has a story, a journey, and what many theologians call….. baggage.  I honestly want you to hear there perspectives and join me in realizing how far we have to go.  Honestly, most of you that read this probably feel that you are on mission and I’m not here to tell you otherwise but a constant reminder of why the message that we bring is so unpalatable to so many.  I love those who will be sharing with us and I pray that you will join me in praying for them and our reactions to there perceptions (right of wrong) of those of us who follow Christ.




About Jon


Jon is a passionate communicator, innovative thinker, and the leader communities that call participants to lives that make much of the glory of God. Jon endeavors to be a resource enabling people to effectively reach their community by leading biblically faithful and culturally relevant lives. His greatest joy outside of Jesus is being married to his wife Heather and being a dad to their children. That being said, the articles and opinions expressed on this blog are solely mine and do not represent Blue Valley Baptist Church or Concord Baptist Church (Jefferson City).

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